Abortion: My POV
December 20, 2009 849 CommentsI’ve never had an abortion, so I have kind of removed or hypothetical political commentary on this one. If you were to ask me hypothetically if I would get one, I could hypothetically say no, I can’t imagine myself ever being able to go through with it. But the real answer is how the hell would I know? There isn’t a little fetus inside of me right now. Ask me then how I’d feel. And that’s what kills me about the whole abortion issue: people in our society trying to tell other people what to do or what they would do if they all of a sudden had an unwanted pregnancy. That’s a really difficult situation to be in, and I can’t imagine trying to tell someone what to do about it. You might believe that a soul enters this world at the moment of conception, but there is just no hard proof of that. And without hard proof, how could you possibly want to harm someone who believes something other than you? One thing I’m sure of is I’ll never be sure of anything in this life, so the last thing I’m going to waste my time on is getting in someone else’s face about the way they’re spending their time here on the planet. But that’s just my two cents. Watch the video to hear other people’s spare change! Then let everyone know your political commentary here, too.
[..YouTube..] @Dragongrl205 “a woman should have sex only is she is prepared for the chance of getting pregnant”????Do you still live in the XIX Century?Sex is NOT just to have babies!Sex is actually more used for recreation!
[..YouTube..] @Dragongrl205 as soon as the sperm fertilizes the egg thats life and thats when a soul and spirit are created and thats when god sees that baby as a person with purpose.the body mite not be there yet but the spirit and soul are ready for the body when the time is right. if the body is destroyed then the spirit and soul go to heaven and the purpose for that baby has been stopped. god is not happy about that at all. but satan loves it.
[..YouTube..] @mrcooldude964 i agree. how does anyone know when that baby has a soul,spirit,mind.
[..YouTube..] @luarionte yeah what if is right. the fact is u dont know what their life would be like. a woman should have sex only is she is prepared for the chance of getting pregnant. havin a child wouldnt ruin her life bitch. i had a child young . it makes things harder but u put urself in that position(which was prob on ur back) blah blah idc what u say ur a whore and murderer if u have an abortion. and nothing wrong with gettin fixed to where u cant create more human LIFE
[..YouTube..] @mrcooldude964 Where is the evidence for what you are saying? What spirit?There is just such thing as spirits!”the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg god creates the spirit and soul for that BABY” – again WHERE is the evidence for that. You must have any in order to say such a bold thing, and so specific also. You cannot just make this up because you “believe” in it
[..YouTube..] @luarionte the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg god creates the spirit and soul for that BABY. from that time god conciders that a baby.we are spirit beings that live in a body. just because the body hasnt developed yet dont mean thats not a living baby because that baby has a soul and spirit that you didnt gave a chance to fulfill what god called that baby to do. and for that you will be accountable
[..YouTube..] @Dragongrl205 The reasons you give are false and rather religious like – “get fixed”?? “adoption”??You know that sex is no longer exclusively for procreation, don’t you??A woman should have a baby when she’s ready and when she wants it! She shouldn’t ruin her life by a mere accident!And abortion is a SIMPLE procedure – NO it doesn’t kill the mother! And as for the “depression” part, i believe she would become MORE depressed if she actually had the child or gave it to adoption
[..YouTube..] @Dragongrl205 What if nobody takes him for adoption?Its the mother’s body – she should decide what’s best! Actually YOU are the one with selfish ideas – forcing her to do what you think it’s “right” (witch actually ISN’T)And NO ONE has the right to force anyone to do anything or to judge them like wise!Abortions happen naturally in Nature (about 35% of all pregnancies result in spontaneous abortion – so they are not “exceptions” ). It should be faced NATURALLY! There’s NO drama to be made
[..YouTube..] @luarionte those r exceptions if the mother will die or was raped, and u dont know when that child has a spirit or mind and u cant prove it. and if protection dosent work get fixed or give it up for adoption. we r talking bout most abortions which r done because the mother dosent want it or cant afford it. and abortion can kill the mother or leave her with depression.its selfish just cause u dont want to get fat and have the baby and give it up for adoption. only evil people kill their own kid
[..YouTube..] @Dragongrl205 What about ectopic pregnanciesThe fetus is developing normally, but its life is already condemned – it will be an abortion.If they dont extract that bunch of cells its FATAL for the mother too!Which come to my next point: people tend to give more value to the life of a bunch of cell than to the mother’s life. The mother is ALWAYS more important that the fetus (first because it can “create” other babies, and because she is already a full develloped human being – the fetus is NOT)
[..YouTube..] @Dragongrl205 First its NOT “kill”! Its just a bunch of cells! Is masturbation genocide then???Second – pregnancies sometimes happen, EVEN WITH protection!And give up for adoption is not a good thing to do to a baby (he’s gonna grow up knowing that his parents didn’t want him – is that good?)What about victims of rape? Do you think they should have the baby?Abortion is a highly morally overrated procedure. It should be faced naturally!Its ISN’T or it shouldn’t be a crime!
[..YouTube..] @mrcooldude964 i agree with u. abortion makes u a murderer and u belong in prision . to me they r no different then the women who kill their already born child
[..YouTube..] @luarionte i got pregnant at 17 i wasnt ready for a kid. if u want to have sex like an adult u need to grow up and be an adult. im tired of hearin they didnt want the baby,the baby didnt want to be created just to be killed im sure
[..YouTube..] @luarionte if people dont want kids or cant afford them they should either not have sex,use protection,get fixed, or give it up for adoption. no excuse to kill.
[..YouTube..] In order to a baby became a human it has to have people WILLING to raise that child – Giving birth is the EASIEST part for a mother and father! The problem is from that moment on.That’s what is laughable about anti-abortionists: they think that the only point is about the birth.They are forgetting the most important part (socialization). You CANNOT force anyone to raise a child against their will – that’s wicked! To me a child can only be consider a human if it has this social component!
[..YouTube..] @Maria4Bernadette Yeah and literally FORCE the mother (or anyone else) to raise the UNWANTED child – because that how he/she will be labelled!Its a rather perverted concept of “hapiness” that you have: a teenage girl (who doesn’t even know how to live by herself let alone raise a child) and an unwanted baby!A human being is NOT only biological! It has a social component (actually more relevant than the biological component. A fetus is only biologically a human, not socially.
[..YouTube..] I think one of the most perverted thing in the world is to kill its own child (no matter how old) in the vomb or outside the vomb. Even more perverted that this is a real wish of the babies own mother, or father. No matter how tempting abortion is, it is naturaly, humanly and in all aspects a wrong decision. Surley not the way to happiness.
[..YouTube..] are you italian with a mix of some hispanic? u look just like my old english teacher. anyways, im against abortion as well. i bet if all the aborted babies were living today(large amount of lives), im sure one of them could have found a cure to cancer.
[..YouTube..] I think the most perverted thing in the world is forcing (morally or legally) a woman to become a mother against her wishes…..
[..YouTube..] @Weston5564 Thank you, for listening and for being so civil with me! I am a very passionate person!! XO
[..YouTube..] what choice does the female in the womb have? killing babys for convience is murder, those who are for abortion have no right to talk bad about hitler, he did the same thing but to grown ups
[..YouTube..] @angelshoulders Thank you for showing me a different point of view.
[..YouTube..] @Weston5564 What a terribly upsetting thing to happen!! I’m sorry for all involved. Life is so precious! Thank you for sharing what was probably a very dificult story to share!
[..YouTube..] @angelshoulders She then went to check on the baby again and the baby was gone. She looked all over the house and then called police. They found that the baby crawled out of a 2nd story window into a river. The police report stated it was an accident and no one was to blame. But she was a murderer and many other things to a point she had to move to a new town and change phone numbers. Even though it was accident it could still have been avoidable.
[..YouTube..] @angelshoulders Because her tripping could have been avoided. For example not far from where I live a few years ago a rather contraversial event occured. A relative of mine was babysitting and had just put the in her crib and went to watch some TV when she thought the baby had fallen asleep. 3 minutes later I stopped by to visit she was my cousin after all and the baby was my niece. We both went to check on the baby she was fine. We went back to the living room and chated a bit.
[..YouTube..] @angelshoulders First off I thank you for leaving a dignified comment. I’am used to being rediculed for my ideas or the fact I’m atheist your approach to me is rather refreshing. Secondly perhaps you are right. I belive abortion is for the most part legal because the fetal state is very fragile. If the mother was to fall the baby would die. This is considered an accident. Where as if she was holding the newborn and the same would occur It could be considered murder.
[..YouTube..] @angelshoulders its my choice if i want to be pregnant or not. rape is bad enough now ur entire life has to be ruined because of it. i dont wanna carry the seed of a rapist for 9 months then cannot be able to give it for adoption only for it to throw my life in the trash. that is a fate worse than death
[..YouTube..] @GODFATHER4768 How on earth can we consider & support our own mother killing us because we were the product of rape Does this mean anyone is superior to someone who is the product of rape.I cannot exchange one tragic event with one ten times worse! By that same thought,should we not also kill the poor,the depressed, the children starving in Africa,or anyone else who suffers?After all,in OUR estimation their lives are not worth living,it’s just too painful for them.They disagree!!
[..YouTube..] @angelshoulders its my choice if i want to be pregnant or not. rape is bad enough now ur entire life has to be ruined because of it. i dont wanna carry the seed of a rapist for 9 months then cannot be able to give it for adoption only for it to throw my life in the trash. that is a fate worse than death
[..YouTube..] @Weston5564 Cont..at the very second the fetus peeks it’s head out of mom’s vagina, a thunder bolt shakes the earth, a supreme court justice bangs his gavel, &the fetus miraculously becomes a human. yet for the life of me I can’t tell the difference between the before and after pictures
[..YouTube..] human beings,as we know,have a right to life;further,the unborn are also human beings;hence,unborn human beings likewise have a right to life by virtue of their ontological status as human beings. You cannot argue that your right to life is made null and void because of your location. Are you any different a person if you’re in one country over another? You’re still you, right? That you are you as an unborn child inside the womb of your mother no more cancels out your human beingness
[..YouTube..] There is little that is physically different or cognitively different,&the child remains dependent on the mother’s care for survival. The location of the child has changed,but why should that matter?It’s not as if the child becomes something else entirely simply because it has moved from one place to another. Where’s the magic?The problem here for the likes of you is that the toddler is afforded protection under law by sheer virtue of him being a human being,not because he is no longer INSIDE
[..YouTube..] @Weston5564 You are happy to contend that a mother could not terminate the life of her 2 year-old,citing that the mother had made her decision&was now responsible,but she doesn’t suggest why the mother is now morally obligated nor why the same responsibility &obligation didn’t exist prior to birth.How is it exactly that a child,two days before exiting the womb is any less deserving of life than a child two days out of the womb?(Or,for that matter,just minutes either side of the birth canal?)
[..YouTube..] @Weston5564 Abortion is legal because we let it be. We live in the richest country,a land flowing of milk &honey,but immediate gratification &selfishness seems to be our anthem.Abortion is a multi-million $ business.What price is human life? $500-$5000.That is what your life is worth if you haven’t passed through the birth canal!Our country should be deeply ashamed.We talk of human rights???!?!?
[..YouTube..] @Weston5564 We do not have the right to decide for another person whether or not his life is worth living. Such rationale still leads to the extreme . We euthanize animals because they do not make decisions for themselves, because they are lesser beings in our care. But human children are not lesser beings, and so the decision should be their’s alone.Granted, many do suffer abuse, but does common sense truly show that it is better to make a murderer’s job easier?
[..YouTube..] How on earth can we consider & support our own mother killing us because we were the product of rape Does this mean anyone is superior to someone who is the product of rape.I cannot exchange one tragic event with one ten times worse! By that same thought,should we not also kill the poor,the depressed, the children starving in Africa,or anyone else who suffers?After all,in OUR estimation their lives are not worth living,it’s just too painful for them.They disagree!!
[..YouTube..] @danielwhitman To make absolutely sure that future generations have proof that women are the ones responsible for all of the killing they demand that a woman (ONLY a woman) sign the order of execution before a member of the AMA will perform the killing.That is to say that every child that is killed by a member of the American Medical Association has a woman’s signature associated with the killing. Without this “mandatory” signature of a woman (the mother), the child gets to live.
[..YouTube..] @BrunetteBarbie21 The killing of children is NOT a religious issue but a human rights issue& it is as a “human rights issue” that this battle must be fought.Along with being the organization that is 100% responsible for killing these human beings the American Medical Association is exploiting ALL women by claiming that all of the killing that has taken place so far & all of the killing that will continue to take place into the future is a woman’s fault,or as they call it a “woman’s choice”.
[..YouTube..] @danielwhitman Those of you familiar with pro-choice rhetoric will of course recognize such a response as an appeal to personal,bodily autonomy&privacy.There’s no addressing the morality of the issue of abortion–supposedly,whether or not there is a moral concern,it is trumped by a mother’s right to the use of her own body as she deems fit.(So instead of talking about morals,we’re talking about rights–&the two are not necessarily synonymous.)
[..YouTube..] @flintlockrifle I don’t deny the humanity of the fetus, I deny the personhood- b/c it physically lacks the brain development AND consciousness, self-awareness that GRANTS personhood. A right stops when it endangers, puts at risk, or seriously takes away from another individual- right to worship- so long as you don’t impose on others. Freedom of speech until it becomes lies/hate speech/incites violence/ect, the fetus doesn’t have rights unless the mother extends them, and that’s how it should be.
[..YouTube..] @flintlockrifleYour comparison is a complete failure.
[..YouTube..] @BrunetteBarbie21 QUIT FUCKING!!!!!!!!
[..YouTube..] @BrunetteBarbie21 GO FUCK A DUCK!!!!!
[..YouTube..] @danielwhitman yeah moron and they can refrain from fucking too then they wouldn’t get pregnant!!!!! Isnt that a choice?????? What about that baby’s choice????? Its a human now isn’t it????? It has a heart beat whats that tell you?????
[..YouTube..] GOD doesn’t allow you to abort!!!!! If you want a choice….KEEP YOUR FREAKING LEGS CLOSED!!!!!!!
[..YouTube..] @danielwhitman, just as the abolitionists tried to tell people that blacks were really humans and not just property, so too the prolifers today are trying their best to tell you a baby in the womb is fully human with every right to life, and you refuse to listen and simply wave them off as religious nuts. Try listening.
[..YouTube..] @BrunetteBarbie21 bible=crap in my yes to be honest christians try to hard
[..YouTube..] people should do what they want with there bodies if they dont want a child they might give birth and kill it afterwards when it can feel, and people shouldn’t force there beleifs because people like that should be shot….i beleive in personal rights
[..YouTube..] I wonder if it were mens obligatiion to carry the child whether there would be such a huge pro life argument. I think not. The bible is the biggest source for most pro life argument and the bible is most definitly not women friendly. It is a mans world after all, anything to make women look evil. Eve, Delilah, Mary Magdelene…
[..YouTube..] @jagawaya It is YOUR religious belief. Not everyone elses.